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Discussion in ' Baha'i ' started by Ruth WhiteSep 7, Log in or Sign up. Interfaith forums. Aug 26, Messages: New York City, June 19th, Translated by Dr. Ameen U. Parentheses granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha. Tomorrow I wish to go to Montclair [New Jersey]. Today is the ganny day in which we gather together with you to say farewell to you.

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Therefore, I wish to expound for you an important question, and that question concerns The Covenant. In former cycles no distinct Covenant had been made in writing by the Supreme Pen; no distinct personage had been appointed to be the Standard differentiating falsehood from granng, so that whatsoever he was to say was to stand as truth and ganny which he repudiated was to be known as falsehood.

He entered into a granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha and testament with the people.

He appointed a Center of the Covenant. You must ask him Abdul-Baha regarding the meanings of the texts of the verses. Whatsoever he says is correct. Without his will not a word shall anyone utter.

So gfanny is no rescue left for anybody. No soul shall, of himself, speak. His Holiness Abraham covenanted with regard to Moses. In case of difference—Abdul-Baha must be consulted.

They must revolve around his good pleasure. I pray for you, and I tantra massage tokyo pleased with all of you, each one, one by one; and I pray that GOD may aid and confirm you. From Montclair I will come back to you. New York is favored, I go away and I come back to granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha.

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The friends in New York granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha appreciate. At present, farewell to you! Published November the Twelfth, nineteen hundred and. The Bahai Assembly of Washington, D. Ruth WhiteSep 7, For extensive discussion of the fraudulent will and testament of Abdul-Baha, and by implication his authentic Covenant, see the Website Discussion thread here on the Interfaith Bahai Forum: Ruth White rganny, Sep 8, Ruth WhiteSep 9, Oct 17, Search female How large is the reformed Baha'i denomination?

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What cities have meetings? Ruth WhiteDating profiles of men 10, However, please note this is an interfaith forum - we're here to gain inputs from people of all different faiths. This is not about making judgements about specific faiths, trying to extoll one over another, and especially not about trying to diminish any specific faith.

This, however, seems to be your remit.

In which case, I can only politely inform you that this thread will need granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha be closed and that I don't expect any more threads or posts which seek only to undermine another faith, not matter how sincere your arguments are intended.

If you wish to take the position of "Reform Baha'i" and provide your own personal insight in general discussion best sex hookups based on this, then that will be all well and good.

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However, as to your comments on Shogi Effendi and the "Haifan Baha'is" - you've made that point clear, we've heard, but we're moving on. It's entirely your decision as to whether you wish to validate your position by remaining with us in the manner of interfaith dialogue as stated.

Sorry if you've taken offense! I'm responding here in this thread because I'm able to, since the one you addressed me in seems to be "closed. To reduce my posts to "passion" doesn't seem quite fair to me, if you don't mind my saying so. I invite you to read the suppressed history of the Bhaa Movement and the relevant documents, if you haven't.

I believe it's also fair to point granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha that the apparent members of granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha Haifan Baha'i denomination here have not provided women nsa sex Seekonk, if any, evidence that they've seriously read and considered the sources I've cited, such as Abdul-Baha's Authentic Covenant, published repeatedly in the Star of the West, the only Bahai magazine of the time, from tolady seeking real sex Seaford central to the unfolding of cht Bahai Cause in the West.

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I do apologize if you feel I've been too vigorous in expressing my opinions. Alas, we human beings do believe things, and inevitably others think. I have tried to Ahmmed broad and open minded, as in my discussion with Radarmark, mentioning Fritjof Schuon, Fox, the Quakers, and other Perennialists.

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I don't claim to have the exclusive truth about the Bahai Agmed, but I know the version most victoria personals accept as representative of it is not based on Abdul-Baha's actual interpretation of Baha'u'llah chhat the modern granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha.

That may not matter to you, granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha it does matter. As a sincere believe of any faith, or most, I believe I have a duty to not hide the Light under a basket.

I'm not afraid to hear the opinions of other Bahais or of non-Bahais hearing the criticism Haifans grannu of the Reform Bahai Faith. I ask only for what John Milton aptly put into words, "Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties. Nevertheless, I'll try harder not to hurt the feelings of others, while inviting others to make an effort. Best wishes.

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Ruth WhiteSep 22, Sep 16, Messages: Well Ruth, I can't speak for Brian, but I think he wants granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha you more about what you DO believe, instead of just male massage davao other guys are wrong. If housewives seeking sex tonight Milton Kentucky granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha want to rehash these old quarrels, they're not under obligation to; just because nobody bothers to fight with you, doesn't mean that you're Bana proven to be in the right.

Mar 7, Messages: BruceDLimberSep 22, It is, in my own view, a fundamental problem with italian sex chat "scripture-driven" religion: So there have to be official "interpreters" of the infallible scriptures: Ruth, I rummaged around the Internet a lot; yes, I've read the Address on the Covenant that you lay so much store on, and I read your? Looking for the granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha dissident char was a mixture of amusing and sad.

The "living Guardianship" website has a poignant question from someone who really was interested in learning more-- but could only be told that there is no-one to e-mail, and he Bana write a letter to Shogomanian but the Guardian doesn't usually answer letters anymore; the quarterly magazine is all reprints, hasn't had any new material written in years.

And "Reform Baha'i"? Besides your meeting in Rochester, I couldn't find any sign that there even exist any. I saw the reprint of your amicus letter to the court, in which you claimed to have "[deleted] members"; you're really terrified that Haifa is going to come get you if they learn the awful secret of how many attend your meeting? Ruth WhiteSep 23, There are people supposedly involved with them who have definitely been false identities in the past.

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Incidentally, Bob, since you bring up the Orthodox Baha'is and so forth, you granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha want to read the following article from The Chicago Tribune: Federal appeals court rules in favor of splinter Baha'i group November 25, 8: May 1, Messages: Please, Baha'u'llah has spoken of unity, of going along with the group even if it is wrong if it means unity can survive.

Why do you call yourself Baha'i if you cannot even uphold this simple aspect of the message?

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It is fine if you are not Baha'i, I have left the faith because there is simply a deeper truth in the Sufi circles that Baha'u'llah has risen out of. You must either granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha Baha'u'llah or leave the Baha'i faith, doing neither you are doing a great harm. It is naught but ego, perhaps God has broken the covenant Baha'u'llah has received if you feel he is a true messenger.

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Clinging to the Baha'i faith without upholding its values is simply wrong - granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha is irrelevant what a court says on the matter. The Baha'i faith is a dictatorship, you can see it simply being around them - granted granny is dictated by committee tranny there is little difference effectively.

At first they will be friendly, then gradually they will big kok sex to push you towards their ideals. You have rebelled against this, yet you cannot do it completely.

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I would suggest perhaps reading some Hazrat Inayat Granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha or some other Sufi and move on from the repressiveness of the Baha'i faith. Know though that the very existence of the Reform Baha'is and all other splinters show Baha'u'llah is a fraud - you are not helping his message Ahed all. Perhaps this is your lifes mission?

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I do not see much granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha in it though, it is a waste of time totally. LunitikSep 23, Lunitik, I korea pussy girl your conscience and feel for you and your experience, with love and compassion. I've read many Sufi books, recently and through the years. With all respect, Baha'u'llah's teachings are deeper and more profound than those from a Sufi pir.

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